Mar 202013
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Famous name not enough; inter-party unite-the-left scheme flawed.

by Bill Tieleman

"Twitter is a great place to tell the world what you're thinking before you've had a chance to think about it."
Chris Pirillo, blogger

Apparently, Canada is doomed — unless one of two things happens, depending on which Twitter feed you follow:

Either Justin Trudeau — Parliament's member for Twitter-East — becomes Liberal leader, is elected prime minister in 2015, and vanquishes both Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper and New Democrat leader Tom Mulcair, or;

Vancouver Quadra MP Joyce Murray becomes Liberal leader and drags into a one-time-only 2015 electoral cooperation deal her own reluctant party, the uninterested NDP and the keen Greens, who all then implement proportional representation and allegedly ensure Conservatives never rule Canada again.

While the first option is extremely unlikely, it at least has a mathematical possibility of coming true. The second option, however, would require more things to happen in precisely the right order with exactly perfect timing than the Big Bang Theory that created our universe.

But two of Canada's biggest social media groups, and, are betting everything on the cosmology caper coming true. and both have admirable campaigns that I endorse but they strained their credibility when they asked Canadians to join the Liberal Party of Canada to support Murray’s windmill-tilting campaign for the leadership.

For others, either one of those events happening in Canada in 2015 would be a sign of political apocalypse akin to the Mayan calendar's 2012 end of the world prediction, and equally unlikely. Nonetheless, when the Twitterati become restless thinking that Harper will extend his Darth Vader rule by winning another election in 2015 — they do what they do best: Tweet. and both have admirable campaigns that I endorse, such as fighting violence against women in India or opposing Conservative environmental cuts. But they strained their credibility beyond the breaking point when they asked Canadians to join the Liberal Party of Canada to support Murray's windmill-tilting campaign for the leadership. They had the same unsuccessful strategy backing NDP MP Nathan's Cullen's leadership campaign, when he also advocated electoral cooperation — and came a distant third. and don't even seem bothered by the fact that Murray's own track record on the environment — one of their top issues — is simply awful. Murray was once hatchet person for then-premier Gordon Campbell's BC Liberal government, serving as minister of water, air and land protection while clear cutting 25 percent of the staff that actually protected wildlife.

Murray was also in charge when the BC Liberals ended the moratorium on salmon farm expansion and hunting grizzly bears and stopped issuing reports about who were the worst corporate polluters in the province. They even eliminated the name "environment ministry."

But her past apparently doesn't matter even to famous enviro endorsers like David Suzuki, because Murray now opposes the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline — and wants electoral cooperation.

As I have argued before, removing voters' democratic right to choose between political parties through an electoral cooperation deal is simply wrong — and what's more, won't work.  And while Tyee contributor Murray Dobbin endorses the lowest common denominator approach to Canadian politics, the reality is that those who want to depose Harper have a simple choice — Mulcair or Trudeau, but not both.

Electoral cooperation can still happen if Canadians wish to support whichever party can most likely win against a Conservative in a "strategic voting" scenario. But neither the NDP opposition nor the third party Liberals will endorse it.

That approach is totally fair for groups like and to advocate, inform and persuade — but trying to remove voter choices through a party deal will never succeed. And while their efforts have gained some media traction, the reality is that currently about 51,000 Canadians have signed's electoral cooperation petition online — which represents less than half the number of voters in one average Ontario riding.

Unfortunately neither nor is launching a campaign to restore democratic representation by population in Canada, where currently Prince Edward Island has ridings with just 30,000 voters and Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia average about 70,000 voters — compared to six Greater Toronto-area ridings with 150,000 to 170,000 voters. That means a vote in PEI is worth five times more than in Toronto!

Meanwhile Justin Trudeau continues the Liberal coronation campaign backed by his nearly 200,000 Twitter followers.

Last time, “We did not define ourselves, the Conservatives ended up defining us. They’ll do it again this time unless we know where each of the candidates stands,” said Marc Garneau.

Marc Garneau — an actual Canadian hero who once challenged Trudeau to debate the real issues facing our country instead of making vague pronouncements — has dropped out and endorsed the party favorite, but only after landing more punches than pathetic ex-Conservative Senator Patrick Brazeau did against Trudeau in his celebrated boxing match.

"He has told Canadians that we need a 'bold plan' and a 'clear vision' without defining either," Garneau said in February. "On Justin's two clear priorities — the middle class and youth engagement — he has said nothing. We have to know what we're voting for, not just who we're voting for."

"We made the mistake last time of saying, 'All we have to do is choose a leader and everything will work out,''' Garneau said, with a reference to disastrous former leader Michael Ignatieff.

"We did not define ourselves, the Conservatives ended up defining us. They'll do it again this time unless we know where each of the candidates stands."
"I am doing the Liberal party a big favour by bringing this up. It's a difficult question but it's one that needs to be asked," Garneau concluded.

Garneau also went after Murray's "wishful thinking" electoral cooperation plan in the Halifax debate March 3.

"Joyce, have you abandoned the Liberal party? Have you lost faith in our party?" Garneau asked her. Murray responded that her plan was "about one-time co-operation… to defeat Stephen Harper."

The Conservatives aren’t nervous about Trudeau as Liberal leader. They are elated.

Lastly, one of my Facebook friends says the NDP and Conservatives seem to be getting nervous about Trudeau — and I agree, but only on the part of the NDP. Trudeau's celebrity leader status may eliminate any chance of the NDP seriously challenging Harper's rule in 2015 but there is almost no chance of a third to first miracle comeback win by the Liberals.

So the Conservatives aren't nervous about Trudeau as Liberal leader. They are elated.

About Bill Tieleman

Bill Tieleman, president of West Star Communications, is one of BC's best known political commentators and communicators. Read political commentary from Bill every Tuesday in 24 hours, Vancouver's free weekday newspaper (also online) and in The Tyee — BC's award-winning online magazine.



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  One Response to “Justin vs Joyce won’t solve Liberals’ problems”

  1. Been fighting with this Comment section for 5 days.  I'll post this anyway. . . if anybody is still reading.
    What has the aptly named ‘twitter verse’ got to do with anything? I don’t subscribe to either twitter of  Facebook because I’m not interested  in the minute by minute musings of the great unwashed nor have any need to slavishly monitor the “illuminati”, but I certainly believe that another 4 years of Harper Inc. will destroy what’s left of this country.
    At least Leadnow and Avaaz are trying to do something, while you sit and snidely snipe from the sidelines
    For the moment I could care less what Joyce Murray’s record is. If electoral co-operation succeeds then let the chips fall where they may. We will likely have a coalition of some sort and her supposedly weak environmental record will not be an overriding issue. Besides I’d rather see her leading the Liberals than young, my-handlers-don’t-want-me-to- talk-about-policy-but-aren’t-my-teeth-and-hair-spiffy, Trudeau.
    As someone who routinely cycles my vote through Lib, NDP & Green I completely reject your premise that one-time-only cooperation which will lead to one non-Harper candidate per riding for this next election is “wrong” or somehow undemocratic.
    For the sole purpose of getting rid of Harper a one-time-only single candidate per riding is no detriment at all.
    The Libs have a history of raiding the NDP for major policy initiatives, the Greens and Libs share conservative economic philosophy while NDP have moved towards the centre, they all support more environmental policies than the Cons. And most importantly, for the immediate future, none of them are Harper. As far as I’m concerned their differences are in nuance not substance and none of them alone provide every policy that I would endorse.
    Maybe you are unique in having had a choice between multiple dynamic candidates to vote for but it is my experience, from long years of voting in both city and rural ridings that we are fortunate to have even one truly dynamic candidate per riding. I can’t count the number of times I have held my nose and strategically voted for a candidate or a leader, when writing in some comic book character’s name on the ballot would have made me feel better.

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